Legal Question in Constitutional Law in New York

College student taken advantage of

I was caught inside one of the bars in Oneonta, New York and was given a summons. The law I broke was Unlawful possesion of alcoholic beverages with intent to consume by persons under 21. Another thing is the summons wasnt dated and i told the judge but he accused me of photocopying the summons then showed me his copy and it was terribly altered with a BLUE pen. After basically saying ''fuck it'' im just gonna plea guilty he gave me a whopping 30 hours of community service and then a 50 fine and then a 6 hour alcohol course. Now im no lawyer but I did take criminal justice and I firmly believe this penalty does not fit the crime and what really gets me mad is that they altered there copy of the summons. Please give me an email back it will be greatly appreciated.


Asked on 11/29/06, 5:51 pm

2 Answers from Attorneys

Edward Hoffman Law Offices of Edward A. Hoffman

Re: College student taken advantage of

I'm not really sure what you're complaining about re: the summons; was it missing the court date or the date on which you were cited? I don't know whether omitting this information would matter unless you were penalized for not having it. My sense is that you are just mad that a technicality you thought would undermine the case against you didn't have the desired effect.

Whatever problems there may have been with the summons evidently didn't affect your case, since you didn't say you were penalized for failure to appear. Your question also doesn't suggest any police misconduct. Since you agree you were guilty as charged I don't see a problem with your conviction.

I also don't think the sentence you describe is particularly harsh. 30 hours of community service isn't "whopping" in my book. What punishment do you think would have been appropriate? Keep in mind that decisions about what penalty fits what crime are for the legislature and the judge to make, not the defendant.

Unless you have already waited too long you can appeal the decision, but trial courts generally have discretion about sentencing matters and appellate courts seldom second-guess their decisions. Unless the law forbids the sentence you received (I'm not licensed in your state and don't know such details) your appeal would most likely fail.

My sense is that even if the law would have permitted a less severe sentence, such leniency would not have deterred you from breaking the law again or taught you the appropriate respect for our legal system. Leniency is for defendants who don't need to be taught a lesson, but it sounds like you do. If you addressed the court in anything like the manner you wrote your message, the judge probably saw things the way I do.

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Answered on 11/29/06, 6:16 pm
Stephen Loeb Law Office of Stephen R. Loeb

Re: College student taken advantage of

Once you pled guilty you admitted the allegations and gave up the right to challenge any of the charges against you. You're lucky you didn't get a harsher fine or a more serious conviction.

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Answered on 11/29/06, 11:02 pm


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