Legal Question in Wills and Trusts in California

Trustee and Beneficiary Rights and Duties

Both my grandparents are alive, but determined incapacitated. My mother is

trustee of their estate and now has fiduciary responsibilty over all of their

affairs. She received a letter from the trust atty stating that the atty believes

the trust is now considered ''irrevocable''.

How does a trust go from revocable to irrevocable in Calif.? I thought that

one of my grandparents would have to pass away or the trust be considered

irrevocable at inception.

The atty's office also released a copy of the trust to my mentally ill uncle (who

collects SSI for his disability and who lived with my grandparents for more

than 30 yrs until we recently relocated them to an assisted living home and

out of his unsafe care) and he is telling my mother that she needs to release

all accounting records to him and is harassing her on a daily basis for

information regarding assets (he is beneficiary on the trust and is successor

trustee).

Because my grandparents are still alive, although both are incapacitated, and

my uncle is determined by the state as mentally ill, what are her duties as

trustee in providing documentation and records pertaining to assets to my

uncle at this time?

Thank you!


Asked on 10/11/05, 1:14 pm

3 Answers from Attorneys

Carl Starrett Law Offices of Carl H. Starrett II

Re: Trustee and Beneficiary Rights and Duties

It is "irrevocable" in the sense that your grandparents no longer have the legal mental capacity to make changes to the trust on their own. The terms of the truste will usually specify what authority and duties the successor trustee has when the trustors are mentally incapacitated. At the present time, you mother's duty is to provide for your grandparents and I do not believe she owes any to respond to your uncle's requests for information. Nonetheless, your mother should consult the attorney regarding her duties, rights and responsibilities.

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Answered on 10/11/05, 2:10 pm
Ken Koenen Koenen & Tokunaga, P.C.

Re: Trustee and Beneficiary Rights and Duties

The trust becomes irrevocable upon the death of one of the original trustors (or at least a portion of it will).

Some trusts are written to allow a successor trustee to make amendments to the trust for limited purposes, so a review of the trust and possibly the power of attorney (if there is one) would be in order.

In any case, I do not believe that she has any duty to anyone other than the original trustors.

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Answered on 10/11/05, 2:24 pm
H.M. Torrey The Law Offices of H.M. Torrey

Re: Trustee and Beneficiary Rights and Duties

in a nutshell, you are correct in your legal assumptions regarding a trust. generally speaking, a trust is deemed irrevocable either at the time it is created by the trustor, or upon the death. the attorney who is "harassing" your mother appears to definitely be out of line, especially if he/she has not advised your mother to seek counsel first before signing over anything per se. you and/or your mother DEFINITELY should retain legal counsel here for review of the actual trust instrument itself, advise you of your rights thereafter, and/or deal "head to head" with this overly zealous attorney at issue BEFORE signing anything. if you would like our assistance, contact us today for peace of mind.

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Answered on 10/11/05, 4:52 pm


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