Legal Question in Wills and Trusts in California

Alternative to probate

Through a quitclaim deed my grandfather gave my father half ownership on his property. My father owned 50% & so did my grandfather. Since then my grandfather has passed away and his share has to go through probate since there was no will made. At the time the quitclaim was done the property was worth 180k. Today it is worth 380k. Which value is considered at probate? And is there an alternative to probate in this matter?

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Asked on 8/18/07, 8:35 pm

2 Answers from Attorneys

Mitchell Roth MW Roth, Professional Law Corporation

Re: Alternative to probate

This question breaks my heart. Wealthy people hire lawyers to arrange these things. The poor and the middle class try to navigate these things on their own, and not very well. I have written a book on this subject. About 100 pages, in plain English. Why don't you read it? You can find it at one of my websites, www.yourlivinglegacy.info.

The answer is that the value of the property for probate purposes, is determined as the value on the date of death. Giving appreciated property as a gift while the giver is alive had disadvantageous tax affect.

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Answered on 8/19/07, 1:12 am
Phillip Lemmons, Esq. Phillip Lemmons APC, Attorneys at Law

Re: Alternative to probate

I would need more information to answer your question. I understand that grandfather and father each owned 50% of the property, but how did they hold their interests. For example if they held it as Joint Tenants, then you won't need probate. If they held it as Tenants in Common, then you will have to probate grandfather's share. The value used for probate purposes is the value of your grandfather's interest. As such, based on the facts, it appears that grandfather's interest are 50% of 380,000, or 190,000. If you need help, let me know. My office can open probate if needed--we do work in Riverside. Before doing that, however, check the title to see how it was held. If it was held as Joint Tenants, the your father will only need to prepare and file an affidavit of death of joint tenant and the property will be his alone. If you have any further questions contact me directly.

Phillip C. Lemmons, Esq.

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Answered on 8/19/07, 1:17 am


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