Legal Question in Criminal Law in California

I was expunged of a felony count two years ago, but every employer and landlord is still telling me I have a felony conviction on my record. That is the only one I ever had. I have paperwork from the judge stating it is expunged, is that the only way to show them, or can I get it off reports that show convicted felons? I am not one anymore. It was expunged.


Asked on 1/20/10, 9:13 am

2 Answers from Attorneys

Robert Marshall Law Office of Robert L, Marshall

A so-called "expungement" doesn't really expunge anything, and it doesn't seal your criminal record. It is a dismissal under Penal Code �1203.4 and just results in an addition to your court record that says the case was dismissed.

Some felonies are "wobblers" that can be reduced to misdemeanors. If you are eligible, reducing your felony to a misdemeanor is actually more advantageous than a Penal Code �1203.4.

Penal Code �1203.4 specifically says you still must disclose the "expunged" conviction when applying to be a police officer or for certain other jobs, or if asked on an application for a state license or to run for public office. It will not remove any restrictions on your right to own a firearm or relieve you of the requirement to register as a sex offender if you were convicted of a registerable offense. The conviction can still be considered a prior offense; for instance, a prior theft conviction could make any future petty theft a felony, or a prior DUI conviction could be used to increase the punishment in subsequent DUI convictions.

BEWARE of law firms that promise to "clear your record" and charge thousands of dollars. The process of filing a Penal Code �1203.4 petition is pretty simple, and you can do it yourself with forms available from the court clerk's office, especially if you completed probation without any problems. If you had a probation violation along the way, you may want an attorney's help, but the guys who charge thousands to file simple paperwork will probably overcharge you for that, too.

California Labor Code �432.7 says employers can't ask about any arrest that didn't result in a conviction, inquire about it from other sources or use it in a hiring decision.

Some attorneys interpret this Labor Code section to mean you don't have to disclose a conviction that was dismissed under Penal Code �1203.4, but I usually advise clients to disclose it, with an explanation that the conviction was subsequently dismissed.

Please understand that this is a general discussion of legal principles by a California lawyer and does not create an attorney/client relationship. It's impossible to give detailed, accurate advice based on a few sentences on a website (and you shouldn't provide too much specific information about your legal matter on a public forum like this, anyway). You should always seek advice from an attorney licensed in your jurisdiction who can give you an informed opinion after reviewing all of the relevant information.

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Answered on 1/25/10, 10:10 am
Terry A. Nelson Nelson & Lawless

Many convictions can sometimes be 'expunged' by proper application and Motion to the court. If successful, the conviction would be retroactively withdrawn and the charges dismissed. That does not 'remove' the conviction, but merely changes the record to show 'conviction reversed and dismissed by expungement'. If expunged, you would be able to say 'no' to conviction on most private employment applications. However, the conviction is still a 'prior' for purposes of repeat offense, and must be disclosed on any application for government and professional licensing, bonding, security clearance, etc. The Labor Code prohibits employers [not others] from asking about arrests that didn't end in conviction, or seeking that info from other sources, or using that info to deny employment. Private parties are not supposed to be able to access the records, but like all rules, there are ways around it.

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Answered on 1/25/10, 11:56 am


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