Legal Question in Real Estate Law in California

Prop 13-Transfer from Parent to Child

My parents purchased there home in Orange County, Ca. in 1979, for a value base of $181,490. My dad and mom recently retired to Tennessee in May of 06'. I have been paying the mortgage balance ($370,000) on the home since then, but my name is not on the deed. They refinanced the home in Orange County in May 06' to take out upwards of $200,000 to put down on their new home in Tenn. They are willing to do a prop 13 transfer, but they are worried that it has to happen within a 2 year period of them leaving there old home in OC because of capital gains taxes. Any help would be appreciated, I would like to refinance the home next year to put my name on the deed, then cash them out the remaining balance up to 80% value of the home. (370,000 owed, home value is 700,000--20% of home value is 140,000, so they would get 190,000 and my new home loan would be 560,000). I will be carrying a seperate note with my parents to cover the 20% down, so the bank will be a loan for 80% of the value of the OC home. Hopefully I have been clear, it always seems easier to explain in conversation.

Thanks

Brandon


Asked on 9/05/07, 10:56 pm

4 Answers from Attorneys

George Shers Law Offices of Georges H. Shers

Re: Prop 13-Transfer from Parent to Child

With the amount of money at stake that you have, it would be a wise investment to spend some time with a real estate tax attorney. [By the way, your wording of the new dollar terms of your proposal is confusing; you will borrow $560,000 as a first from a bank [$370,000 of which will pay off the first loan you have] and $140,000 from your parent, and pay your parents $190,000]. Will you be able to afford the payments on loan debts of $510,000?

I think there is a fair amount of tax avoidance planning that you need to be informed of.

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Answered on 9/06/07, 2:08 pm
Johm Smith tom's

Re: Prop 13-Transfer from Parent to Child

Don't you want to consult with an attorney regarding assets this important. Our Orange Co. member has extensive real estate experience and can help you do this the right way to help you and your parents.

David W. Nance

DWNanceLLC.com

NanceGroup.com

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Answered on 9/05/07, 11:19 pm
Robert L. Bennett Law offices of Robert L. Bennett

Re: Prop 13-Transfer from Parent to Child

I do not practice in the taxation area of law. Follow Mr. Nance's advice, or resubmit under the heading of Tax/Taxation Law.

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Answered on 9/06/07, 10:33 am
Bryan Whipple Bryan R. R. Whipple, Attorney at Law

Re: Prop 13-Transfer from Parent to Child

Neither of these prior answers seems to address the questions asked. I will try to do a little better, but I'm going to end up recommending that you see a local attorney specializing in the area of estate planning and/or family wealth transfer.

First, transferring real property from parent(s) to child(ren) and avoiding reassessment to current market value is a well-established practice, specifically permitted by statute and often done without a problem. The main advice I can give you here is that county assessors vary in their documentation requirements from county to county, and while the law is uniform (at least in this specific area), the rules under which it is administered do differ, so I suggest having a discussion with Orange County's assessor - or look at their Web site, which likely has good info - I know L.A. County's site explains the process well.

Next, I don't think there is any two-year aspect to Prop. 13 transfers, but I could be wrong! However, more likely than not, you are thinking of the IRS requirement that to shelter up to $500,000 (for a couple) of capital gains, a house must have been your "principal residence" for at least two years out of the last five. It sounds as though that gives your parents three years to take a gain that would be sheltered.

That leads to the next observation. If they give the house to you, or sell it for less than $181,490, they won't have a taxable gain anyway. You, however, will have a low basis, and if you ever sell, you will have a big capital gain.

Next issue is the gift tax. That may be triggered if you get the house for less than fair market value. If you assume debt, I think that is part of the price you're paying, however.

Finally, it is widely believed that the best way to transfer appreciated property from generation to generation is by will or trust, and not by gift.

Since I'm rather uncertain about all of this, the one thing I will advise is to see a local estate-planning attorney - and not just a guy who does cookie-cutter living trusts - and get real, personalized advice from a true expert. It's worth it!

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Answered on 9/06/07, 1:24 pm


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